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		<title>Comment on Cleggtriloquism by Eddie</title>
		<link>http://www.jonreed.co.uk/blog/politics/cleggtriloquism/comment-page-1/#comment-8178</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The coalition with all its in-built paradoxes and contradictions is a gift to the politicians - they can attack Labour from both left and right and maintain complete deniability simultaneously. Yes, everyone knows the Iraq War was illegal. And although the Tories voted for it at the time it&#039;s another useful stick to beat Labour with now (especially as the coalition&#039;s economic arguments are looking flakier than ever just at the moment). But only the Lib Dems can use the Iraq stick. 

I also thought it fascinating that Clegg dragged Iraq into a reply completely unrelated to the PMQ he was asked - another sign the comment was preplanned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The coalition with all its in-built paradoxes and contradictions is a gift to the politicians &#8211; they can attack Labour from both left and right and maintain complete deniability simultaneously. Yes, everyone knows the Iraq War was illegal. And although the Tories voted for it at the time it&#8217;s another useful stick to beat Labour with now (especially as the coalition&#8217;s economic arguments are looking flakier than ever just at the moment). But only the Lib Dems can use the Iraq stick. </p>
<p>I also thought it fascinating that Clegg dragged Iraq into a reply completely unrelated to the PMQ he was asked &#8211; another sign the comment was preplanned.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cleggtriloquism by Andrea Gill</title>
		<link>http://www.jonreed.co.uk/blog/politics/cleggtriloquism/comment-page-1/#comment-8177</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s certainly the first time since the election that the comments section on a guardian article has more pro-Clegg comments than anti-Clegg ones. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s certainly the first time since the election that the comments section on a guardian article has more pro-Clegg comments than anti-Clegg ones. <img src='http://www.jonreed.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Cleggtriloquism by Andrea Gill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it was deliberate and a sabotage, then it rather misfired...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was deliberate and a sabotage, then it rather misfired&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cleggtriloquism by Jon Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you&#039;re right - whatever the motivation, it was great to hear the words &quot;illegal war&quot; from the DPM! Who&#039;da thought it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you&#8217;re right &#8211; whatever the motivation, it was great to hear the words &#8220;illegal war&#8221; from the DPM! Who&#8217;da thought it?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cleggtriloquism by Andrea Gill</title>
		<link>http://www.jonreed.co.uk/blog/politics/cleggtriloquism/comment-page-1/#comment-8174</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS: Whatever the origin of the remark, it has done the grass roots and the discouraged Lib Dem voters (as well as MPs like Charles Kennedy, who must&#039;ve been doing a little happy dance upon hearing this!) a seeming load of good to hear a senior Liberal Democrat stand up in the HoC and say what most people in the country think.

I&#039;m sure there are more than a few Tories who voted for the war who feel cheated and misled by Blair and Straw, especially now the Chilcot enquiry is more and more coming round  to the Lib Dem point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: Whatever the origin of the remark, it has done the grass roots and the discouraged Lib Dem voters (as well as MPs like Charles Kennedy, who must&#8217;ve been doing a little happy dance upon hearing this!) a seeming load of good to hear a senior Liberal Democrat stand up in the HoC and say what most people in the country think.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are more than a few Tories who voted for the war who feel cheated and misled by Blair and Straw, especially now the Chilcot enquiry is more and more coming round  to the Lib Dem point of view.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cleggtriloquism by Jon Reed</title>
		<link>http://www.jonreed.co.uk/blog/politics/cleggtriloquism/comment-page-1/#comment-8173</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could be - Agreeing with Nick is de rigueur these days - and other Tories have changed their minds, such as Theresa May on gay equality. I just can&#039;t help thinking that, if Osborne had a hand in it, it was calculated to embarrass...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could be &#8211; Agreeing with Nick is de rigueur these days &#8211; and other Tories have changed their minds, such as Theresa May on gay equality. I just can&#8217;t help thinking that, if Osborne had a hand in it, it was calculated to embarrass&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cleggtriloquism by Andrea Gill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe, just maybe, George agrees with Nick?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe, just maybe, George agrees with Nick?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Memo to David Laws: It&#8217;s not the 1950s by Jon Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would never want to forcibly &#039;out&#039; someone - unlike the Telegraph, which seems to open its skeleton cupboard whenever it needs a circulation boost (and the AC theory is an interesting one).  But I agree that it helps when public figures are open about their sexuality. 

Clearly we live in an unequal society where very many people feel they have to live in fear and secrecy. To point this out seems to me self-evident rather than arrogant.  Nor would I define freedom as the freedom to live in the closet. To me, that seems a contradiction, and to miss the bigger picture. Real freedom is surely living in a society where sexuality is a pedestrian demographic fact, not something that needs to be hidden. And it is going to extreme lengths to hide a 10-year relationship that makes it a single-issue in someone&#039;s life - not living life in the open. There&#039;s a difference between a private life and a secret life.

While being gay no longer raises an eyebrow in public life, it is of course more controversial in many people&#039;s personal/family lives. These things are not easy. They could be made easier by politicians setting an example. I don&#039;t want to brow-beat them into doing so - but I&#039;m disappointed when they don&#039;t.

I want equality in all things for both gay and straight people. No, gay people don&#039;t have less right to a private life. Politicians do. Their domestic arrangements, particularly when taxpayer funded, are rightly subject to public scrutiny, especially after the expenses scandal. The expenses system, as it now stands, does seem predicated on an assumption that no one would want to keep their partner a secret - so he does seem to have been caught in an insoluble conundrum, whoever paid the rent in this case. 

The irony is that, had he declared his partner, he would not only have stayed within the rules but could have claimed more in expenses. Thinking you can maintain a secret life in public life seems naive, and protecting privacy is not an appropriate use of public money. Especially since that right to privacy doesn&#039;t extend to benefit claimants, who are thoroughly snooped on and would lose their benefits and possibly face prosecution if they didn&#039;t declare a cohabitee. 

I do hope this is temporary, though, and Laws can return to Cabinet soon. I think he&#039;s a very talented politician - the Government needs him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would never want to forcibly &#8216;out&#8217; someone &#8211; unlike the Telegraph, which seems to open its skeleton cupboard whenever it needs a circulation boost (and the AC theory is an interesting one).  But I agree that it helps when public figures are open about their sexuality. </p>
<p>Clearly we live in an unequal society where very many people feel they have to live in fear and secrecy. To point this out seems to me self-evident rather than arrogant.  Nor would I define freedom as the freedom to live in the closet. To me, that seems a contradiction, and to miss the bigger picture. Real freedom is surely living in a society where sexuality is a pedestrian demographic fact, not something that needs to be hidden. And it is going to extreme lengths to hide a 10-year relationship that makes it a single-issue in someone&#8217;s life &#8211; not living life in the open. There&#8217;s a difference between a private life and a secret life.</p>
<p>While being gay no longer raises an eyebrow in public life, it is of course more controversial in many people&#8217;s personal/family lives. These things are not easy. They could be made easier by politicians setting an example. I don&#8217;t want to brow-beat them into doing so &#8211; but I&#8217;m disappointed when they don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I want equality in all things for both gay and straight people. No, gay people don&#8217;t have less right to a private life. Politicians do. Their domestic arrangements, particularly when taxpayer funded, are rightly subject to public scrutiny, especially after the expenses scandal. The expenses system, as it now stands, does seem predicated on an assumption that no one would want to keep their partner a secret &#8211; so he does seem to have been caught in an insoluble conundrum, whoever paid the rent in this case. </p>
<p>The irony is that, had he declared his partner, he would not only have stayed within the rules but could have claimed more in expenses. Thinking you can maintain a secret life in public life seems naive, and protecting privacy is not an appropriate use of public money. Especially since that right to privacy doesn&#8217;t extend to benefit claimants, who are thoroughly snooped on and would lose their benefits and possibly face prosecution if they didn&#8217;t declare a cohabitee. </p>
<p>I do hope this is temporary, though, and Laws can return to Cabinet soon. I think he&#8217;s a very talented politician &#8211; the Government needs him.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Memo to David Laws: It&#8217;s not the 1950s by JohnnyFox</title>
		<link>http://www.jonreed.co.uk/blog/politics/memo-to-david-laws-its-not-the-1950s/comment-page-1/#comment-8054</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnnyFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 10:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve campaigned for gay rights since long before it was fashionable, and I agree that when people in the public eye choose to come out it&#039;s generally a progressive step that benefits many still in the closet.

But equality and freedom mean that individuals should still be allowed to choose how much of their private life to make public.  David Laws was having an innocent, legal, no-one&#039;s getting hurt love affair (of whatever flavour) that he didn&#039;t want to share with friends and families.

It was an open secret at Westminster that he was gay, and it&#039;s unfortunate his closet doors have been blown off in such a violent way by the perfidious Daily Telegraph over the observance of what&#039;s really a technicality in the complex expenses rules, not deliberate fraud.

And I don&#039;t think Alistair Campbell&#039;s role in this is fully explained yet.  Just a hunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve campaigned for gay rights since long before it was fashionable, and I agree that when people in the public eye choose to come out it&#8217;s generally a progressive step that benefits many still in the closet.</p>
<p>But equality and freedom mean that individuals should still be allowed to choose how much of their private life to make public.  David Laws was having an innocent, legal, no-one&#8217;s getting hurt love affair (of whatever flavour) that he didn&#8217;t want to share with friends and families.</p>
<p>It was an open secret at Westminster that he was gay, and it&#8217;s unfortunate his closet doors have been blown off in such a violent way by the perfidious Daily Telegraph over the observance of what&#8217;s really a technicality in the complex expenses rules, not deliberate fraud.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t think Alistair Campbell&#8217;s role in this is fully explained yet.  Just a hunch.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Memo to David Laws: It&#8217;s not the 1950s by Chris Mills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 17:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may not be the 1950s but someone&#039;s private life (including their sexuality) is just that, private unless they decide to reveal it.  

The relationship is not the business of parliament or you and I.

YOU may not buy that, but perhaps you should.  I have no need to know he ins and outs of everyone&#039;s relationships.  There is no need to be nosy!

You don&#039;t know what his family are like.  They may be openly homophobic.

The issue is the public money used.

If he were to stop claiming but still live at the same address, then he may have revealed the relationship.  

His other option was to dead let (rent but not live in) another property and pay his rent to his partner from his own pocket.

But then we would have had another scandal.

MP Rents flat, claims it on expenses and doesn&#039;t live there.  Instead he lives with his lover.  

He was on a hiding to nothing either way.  The only thing that would have afforded him privacy was means tested expenses, because he wouldn&#039;t have qualified for any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may not be the 1950s but someone&#8217;s private life (including their sexuality) is just that, private unless they decide to reveal it.  </p>
<p>The relationship is not the business of parliament or you and I.</p>
<p>YOU may not buy that, but perhaps you should.  I have no need to know he ins and outs of everyone&#8217;s relationships.  There is no need to be nosy!</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t know what his family are like.  They may be openly homophobic.</p>
<p>The issue is the public money used.</p>
<p>If he were to stop claiming but still live at the same address, then he may have revealed the relationship.  </p>
<p>His other option was to dead let (rent but not live in) another property and pay his rent to his partner from his own pocket.</p>
<p>But then we would have had another scandal.</p>
<p>MP Rents flat, claims it on expenses and doesn&#8217;t live there.  Instead he lives with his lover.  </p>
<p>He was on a hiding to nothing either way.  The only thing that would have afforded him privacy was means tested expenses, because he wouldn&#8217;t have qualified for any.</p>
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